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  • Rochelle Martinez
    commented 2019-08-15 12:36:44 -0400
  • Joe DeFilippo
    commented 2019-08-07 10:29:13 -0400
  • Gretchen Kronk
    commented 2019-08-06 12:18:04 -0400
    To Bill Latka: Thank you for the heads-up email this morning about the Line 5 resolution up for approval at tomorrow’s meeting of the GT County Commissioners. My question is this, with reference to the 2nd paragraph of the resolution: Does Line 5 indeed transport enough fuel to meet “more than half the propane needs of the state”? Thanks, Gretchen
  • Whitney Valentine
    commented 2019-07-17 10:14:16 -0400
    I’d love to get in contact with Paul Hendricks about a speaking engagement in Saugatuck, Michigan.
  • Ronald Lints
    commented 2019-06-28 15:04:36 -0400

    Dear Senator Stabenow,

    Thank you for informing us of your effort to add additional funding to control the spreading of chronic wasting disease in the Farm Bill 2018. Yes, the research in universities is important to “treat, mitigate and eliminate chronic wasting diseases”, as you stated in your letter dated May 28th, 2019. In addition, Senator Tester (D-Montana) has also introduced a bill: Act (S.689) to address CWD.

    This federal effort is needed but action in the field has to start NOW at the State Level with federal funds. CWD is an infectious disease that spreads quickly (example: The Great State of Wisconsin). I understand research and university research takes time that we do not have.

    Infectious disease in a wildlife population has to be addressed with 100% effort. All core areas need to be treated with proven wildlife management of an infectious disease and that is removing all the animals. Then, testing the surrounding areas for other positive animals, not just deer.

    Waiting for university research will allow CWD to spread. It is time to ACT. Don’t worry about your citizens, they are in this fight together with you and will support elimination of this infectious disease. Elimination is the only intelligent goal.

    All the best,

    Dr. Lints
  • Ronald Lints
    commented 2019-06-28 13:57:59 -0400
    Chronic wasting disease is contaminating our water and land. Let me know the best email to send my literature review. All the best

    Dr Lints
  • Morton E Mattson
    commented 2019-06-11 07:25:16 -0400
    Most Michiganians, who oppose the continued operation of Line 5 have NOT BEEN TOLD OF THE REALITIES OF STRENGTH OF MATERIALS. They have been lied to regarding the components carried through the pipe line. Only light crude and Natural Gas Liquids have ever been thru the pipeline. Black faced children in Traverse City and Petoskey illustrate the tactics of many critics. Most of the most aggressive critics hate fossil fuels and have a great deal of emotion and passion for their draconian solutions. Those of who live in the real world make our decisions on logic and reason. Yesterday (05/28) I sent an e-mail to Senator Gary about his widely dispersed Coast Guard picture of the anchor tracks on the bottom of the straits that encountered Line 5 (without damage). Damage was a reality to some electrical infrastructure beyond the pipe line. I was born in Escanaba in 1938. One of my first cousins sailed on the lakes right after HS, before he became a fire fighter in the only taconite port on the lower lakes. A few years ago, a taconite bulk carrying ship, now named the SS American Enterprise carried the heaviest taconite load on Lake Michigan, from Escanaba to Burns Harbor, Indiana. The load of pellets weighed 76,000 tons (roughly 152 million pounds / 69 million kg). Yesterday morning, I called the ship building company in Wisconsin to determine the hull plate thicknesses. As built, the referenced plates varied from 0.625 inches to 0.75 inches. The thickness of the Bechtel Built Line 5 is 0.812 inches (30% more than the smallest measure). The clear message of these REALITIES is that Line 5 (THE THICKEST OF ALL ENBRIDGE PIPELINES, IS SAFE AND VERY TOUGH). We really do not need the hassle and expense of a tunnel to keep our citizens safe.

    Mort Mattson,, Trained Surveyor (MSU Surveying Camp , 1957) Route surveyor: I-96 near Nunica, I-94 near Chesterton, IN & I-75 near Grand Blanc_) ; NSF Summer Institutes (62-63-64) Cornell University, Ithaca,NY); Founding Coordinator of the Third Largest Planetarium at Lansing Community College (Total LCC Tenure: 42 years); Founder of “MICHIGAN TOMORROW” circa, 1975.
  • Cynthia Kamp
    commented 2019-06-10 16:50:12 -0400
    Is Oil and Water Don’t Mix a 501c3 organization? I want to make a donation and would like to know. Thank you!
  • Tom Perkins
    commented 2019-06-05 16:38:41 -0400
    Hello – My name is Tom Perkins and I’m a reporter with The Guardian putting together a story on Line 5. I’m hoping to set up a phone call with someone at Oil and Water Don’t Mix. Thanks.
  • Mary Bowler
    commented 2019-06-04 10:16:53 -0400
    I ordered a lawn sign last week for local pick up. Then discovered there is no place near me. May I pay the extra $10 only and have one sent? I would check “want to volunteer” but I’m already on the list.
  • Lindsey Walker
    commented 2019-04-17 16:57:05 -0400
    Link of phone number to call governor is incomplete
  • Deannaq Luton
    commented 2019-03-25 13:28:46 -0400
    I am a student at Grand Valley State University in Traverse City. I am taking a Wicked Problems of Sustainability class. Our project for the semester is to design a collaborative community event that takes an incremental step toward the solution of a small problem. I just reserved SH 217 for 4/22 (Earth Day) from 5pm-9pm to screen of Line 5: The Complete Series. The film is available to view online for free at line5film.com. One of our team members would love to utilize the computer lab next to the auditorium to direct people to sign the position on your website. She wanted to contact you to make sure that’s okay with you. I would also like to extend the formal invitation for your organization to table at our event!
  • Rebekah Sale
    commented 2019-03-14 17:19:13 -0400
    I am writing to encourage all Michiganders to contact Senator Stabenow (email Debbie: https://www.stabenow.senate.gov/contact) to ask her to support new amendments to the Natural Gas Act that will help landowners facing pipelines.

    These simple and reasonable amendments would make the FERC process fairer for landowners by addressing things like notice, conditioned certificates and property appraisals used for eminent domain condemnation.

    You can email or call me or go to https://www.abralliance.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/Libertarian-group-eyes-eminent-domain-reform-on-Capitol-Hill-EE-News-Energywire-2-14-18.pdf to find out more about the amendments written by our friends at the Libertarian Niskanen Center (who, unlike conservatives captured by the oil and gas industry, are willing to stand up for property rights). Their lobbyist is meeting with Senator Stabenow shortly so time is of the essence.

    I am happy to jump on the phone to explain more and would love it if you could help spread the message or lead me to others in Michigan whom I can contact. We are based in NY and have members all over the country (OR, PA, VA, NJ, GA, SC, TX) fighting pipelines but no one in Michigan.

    I would deeply appreciate any help you could give and am happy to offer the same to you and your state when needed.

    In solidarity,


    Rebekah Sale


    Executive Director

    Property Rights and Pipeline Center


    O: 212-378-4099 C: 917-940-5421
  • Nathaniel Cromar
    commented 2019-03-07 13:48:30 -0500
    Hi, my name is Nathaniel Cromar to any citizens out there who want to come. . . Hey, what’s up?. My classmates and I are 5th and 6th-grade students at Renaissance Public School Academy who are organizing an event for World Water Day. The goal of our event is to raise awareness in our community about access to clean water, keeping Michigan water clean, and helping preserve our Great Lakes for years to come. We need your help.

    We have recently found out about what Shut down pipeline 5 are doing to help preserve Michigan’s water. We would appreciate it if you would be a participant in our event by setting up an informational table about what your organization is doing to support this cause, or even just coming and supporting this wonderful day\event. You would have a 6’ long table to set up an informational booth about your organization or any other water information you would like to share.

    The event is scheduled to take place on March 20, 2019, at the Soaring Eagle Casino and Resort in Mt. Pleasant, MI from 10:00 am – Please let us know if you would be interested in participating and supporting our event. If you are unable to make the event, we would love to present any information or resources you would like to send to us and still raise awareness for your organization in our community.

    Thank you for considering our event.


    Nathaniel Cromar


    Renaissance Public School Academy
  • Joseph Davis
    commented 2019-02-20 21:37:27 -0500
    I was Ice fishing in Caseville MICHIGAN. A warm wind started to blow and melt the Ice. Well i started to see black pools forming all around me.
    For as far as you could see every 15 feet there was pools of oil from the wind blowing the oil and water on the Ice.
    I have photographs of what i saw and I’d like to give them to you. I cannot believe how much pollution is in the Lakes and you cant see it but its there. Email me at [email protected]

    I’ll send you my photos. It was bad. Where is it coming from? There was soooo much oil on the Ice it seems like alot to be from storm drains and boats. I think a pipeline is leaking. It has to be. Send me an email ill show you the pics.
  • Michael Jasperse
    commented 2018-12-19 11:46:17 -0500
    I just sent this to the governors office:

    Have they produced any such report? Any independent engineering surveys done to support this decision has a modicum of wisdom to it?

    “I am a Michigander. I understand the Governor just signed into law the legislation regarding Line 5.

    As a citizen, can I have access to the engineering reports that confirm that the line is structurally sufficient to operate for another 5 – 10 years? The engineers 50 years ago gave it a life expectancy. We have exceeded that and now we are saying let’s go another 5 – 10 years. I am sure there must be an independent study around that shows despite the stresses of being on the bottom of the straits, the pressures built up through pumping high volumes of different fluids through, and the movement natural to a structure like that, that shows that the line is structurally sound enough continue to be operated and that the design engineers who were tasked with designing a line with a defined service life expectancy were completely wrong.

    I would like to request that you please send that to this email address at your earliest convenience.

    With regards,

    Michael Jasperse
  • Eileen Thorp
    commented 2018-11-27 17:37:32 -0500
    I stated today that the line 5 pipeline provides about 5% of oil /propane to US/UP? I was speaking with Anne Minard/Lee Chatfield’s Office Mgr: she said that was wrong and was a double digit number. Do you know what that is? Also, what is line 6b, never heard of this?
  • Dr. Elvira M. Wilbur
    commented 2018-11-27 15:22:42 -0500
    My apologies for not being able to attend Lame Duck Lobby Day today. I had a major plumbing problem and problems getting a plumber. But I doubled the contribution I just made, and hope to help in the future.
  • Alison Paton
    commented 2018-11-20 18:25:41 -0500
    Urgent Suggestion re the Lame Duck bills: I, and others I know, will do all that we can, but the fact remains we are all registered Democrats, and Schmidt, Chatfield, etc can easily determine that. There is ONE PERSON who could make a HUGE IMPACT and turn this thing around, and that is Dan Musser, Owner of the Grand Hotel. As a Republican of high socio-economic standing, his PERSONAL PHONE CALL to each and every Republican legislator WOULD be taken immediately by the legislator and they would listen. I know Musser has already stated his opposition publicly, but his personal phone call would mean even more. Please contact him and ask him to do this ASAP — at least to call all the Republican Senators, if not Reps. Tell him this suggestion came from his former neighbor on East Lake Street in Petoskey. :)
  • Martha Kiander
    commented 2018-11-19 11:20:15 -0500
    I believe I RSVP’d for lobby day November 27, but I received another email inviting me to RSVP. Could you please confirm that you have received my RSVP?

    Thank you, Martha Kiander [email protected]
  • Katherine Snell
    followed this page 2018-11-17 13:37:05 -0500
  • Katherine Snell
    commented 2018-11-17 13:35:48 -0500
    The bus announcement on LDLD says Grayling in one place and Gaylord in another. Which is it?
  • Chris Meier
    commented 2018-11-06 11:55:14 -0500
    Can voters in Michigan gather signatures to create a Ballot Proposal in 2020 to prevent all oil and gas pipelines from moving through, under or over the Great Lakes? Or to prevent Public or Private companies from creating “Great Risk” to the health and future of our Natural Resources? I would think Voters should be able to stop this with enough signatures since every voter has equal rights to enjoy nature and save it from risky business behavior.
  • Rachel Miller
    commented 2018-11-05 17:50:18 -0500

    I am just curious about how this organization views the issue of the Enbridge Line 5 Pipeline. Last I heard from Governor Snyder was that progress was being made and repairs are being planned. Being this site is strong against the fact that oil and water don’t mix, I aim to understand how you believe this issue has developed and if the outcomes are positive? Do you believe the plans regarding this issue has been overdue? Are the plans better for the Great Lakes or could more be done? Any thoughts about the issue will help.

    Thank you,

    Rachel Miller
  • Dr. Paul Keck
    commented 2018-10-16 14:49:14 -0400
    Dear Secretary Sweeney.

    I have some serious reservations concerning the assignment of line 5 to the Bridge Authority (BA). Why would the BA agree to enter into an agreement with a company with such a deplorable safety record? Why would the BA consider

    partnering with a Canadian Company transporting toxic materials across our state for the primary benefit of Canada, certainly not Michigan? Why would the BA even consider the financial and legal implications of entering into such

    an agreement? I understand that Enbridge has pledged 1.88 billion, but that is a far cry from the potential exposure of 6.3 billion. Is the BA prepared to cough up the potential difference of 4.42 billion?

    Also, the continued use of the pipeline violates the Submerged Lands Act, and the Indian treaties that were entered into in good faith to protect indigenous fishing rights. Should you approve this agreement, reached behind closed doors

    between our lame duck Governor and Enbridge, are you prepared to face the onslaught of legal challenges from Michiganders and the Indian people that are inevitable?

    Lastly, protecting the drinking water of more than 35 million people must prevent piping environmentally toxic materials under any body of water, be it freestanding or buried. Both are unacceptable, and would place you potentially at odds

    with 9 states, and those Canadians that understand the implications of approving such an agreement.

    Please consider very carefully your role in protecting our state for existing and future generations, and give credence to the motto “Pure Michigan” .


    Dr. Paul J. Keck

    West Olive, MI
  • Martha Kiander
    commented 2018-08-28 15:01:52 -0400
    Is there anything we can do in support of the law suit two environmental groups are bringing against the coast guard for lack of preparedness in case of an Enbridge line 5 spill? When will hearings be held? Has anything similar been tried in the past? Thoughts on the chances of success?
  • Rob Parsons
    commented 2018-08-27 11:38:25 -0400
    The Mackinac Bridge is a very strong – redundantly strong – superstructure. Why not remove line 5 from under the water and put it above the water? Attach a pipeline to the bridge structure. It could be constantly monitored, quickly shut down in case of trouble, and easily repaired as needed.
  • Cheryl D
    commented 2018-08-24 11:44:14 -0400
    As ships and vessels have a right to navigate the waters of the Great Lakes to transport goods to and fro for the public good in a safe manner, and as anchors are an important part of controlling and operating a ship, coupled with the fact the Great Lakes waterways are a major highway of waters for many companies, are the shipping companies on board to get Line 5 decommissioned? If not, then why not? Shipping companies should have the inherent right to drop anchor wherever needed to protect the ship, cargo, passengers, or crew anytime as needed, and not have to worry about, or being held liable for some foreign object on the lakebed. A lakebed a shipping company depends on to slow a vessel down if need be, and especially in unpredictable circumstances such as sudden strong winds, or if engine were to break down which could cause a crash if a ship operator couldn’t drop anchor for example. The right to anchor would seem synonomis to the right to navigate on a public body of water that serves the public first and foremost according to the Public Trust Doctrine of the State of Michigan. Thank you to all OilandWaterDontMix supporters for all you do to protect our Great Lakes in working to decommission Line 5 Oil pipeline; as there are other options to purchase oil and gas from Michigan companies, and keeping Michigan dollars in Michigan.
  • Susan Yun
    commented 2018-08-16 11:36:43 -0400

    Trying to find some signs. Most local places in northern MI are sold out. Can I still purchase on line for mailing?
  • Brian Mettler
    commented 2018-07-31 13:41:24 -0400
    Hi O&WDM!

    I am looking to leave my current industry and lend my unique talents to the cause. I would like to submit my resume to your fine organization for any future openings please. Can I get an email address so I can pass my resume along ? Thank you, and thanks for all you are doing.

    Brian Mettler

    Brand Ambassador / Rain Maker

    PR / Sales / Marketing

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